How to subscribe to the HillmanCars group:

Subscribers receive copies of all distributed messages (as separate e-mail items), and are able to post messages for automatic distribution.  If you are content with the simplicity of this, you don't need a Yahoo id and you don't need to join a Yahoo Group.  Subscribing and joining are not the same thing.  Leave joining for later (see "Extra Features" section below), or not at all.

Send e-mail to HillmanCars-subscribe@yahoogroups.com . Don't worry about the Subject field and message text – they're ignored.  The message server program will eventually add you (the sender's e-mail address) to its list of subscribers. It will quickly send you a messsage titled "Please confirm your request to join HillmanCars" – you need to respond in one of the specified ways to complete the subscription. To minimise the chances of spammers getting in, the group moderator will then evaluate your request to subscribe.  This might take several hours (or even days), so please be patient.  After approval is given, you will receive a "Welcome to HillmanCars" message, and copies of messages from other subscribers will start arriving.

When you want to post a new message:

Send e-mail to HillmanCars@yahoogroups.com . Choose the Subject field thoughtfully.  Don't leave it blank. In the body of your message, don't forget to mention where you live – especially if you are requesting parts etc.  Be aware that your fellow subscribers are all over the world – Australia, New Zealand, the Americas, Great Britain, Asia, Scandanavia, ....

When you want to reply to someone else's message:

Simply click on "Reply to All" (if your e-mail program has that option).  At least one of the addresses in the "To" field will be "HillmanCars@yahoogroups.com" (or a pseudonym for it) – delete all of the others, because Majordomo will send the message to them (as subscribers) anyway. Don't fiddle with the Subject field – this is important to everybody who wants to follow this discussion as a "thread."  If your e-mail program doesn't automatically propagate the Subject field, please copy and paste it from the message you are replying to.
Be aware that some of us receive dozens of messages (from various sources) each day, so it is an absolute necessity for us to sort the inbox by Subject.  If your message is out of sequence, it's effectively wasted. On the other hand, if your contribution is a significant diversion from the original topic, please choose a new Subject field thoughtfully – e.g. Re: More Pertronix (was: Re: "Hillman - " Anyone out there?) .

Netiquette (network etiquette):

Please understand that when you post a message, it's like standing on a stage and speaking to a crowd of 200 people.  Here's a website with the rules of Netiquette.  These core rules of decency are generally accepted by the vast majority of internet users worldwide.
After you get to know a few of the prominent contributors, you'll understand that we're a good-natured bunch of people who don't mind stirring each other up a bit.  However, for some reason I don't understand, the Kiwis (people from New Zealand) are sensitive to Australians referring to their strange accent. (I'll probably get spammed for saying that ;-)

When you want to leave the group, here's how to unsubscribe :

It's your job to unsubscribe from the HillmanCars discussion group when you no longer want messages – other subscribers aren't able to remove you, so please don't annoy them by asking.

Send e-mail to HillmanCars-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com .

Don't worry about the Subject field and message text – they're ignored.  The message server program will remove you (the sender's e-mail address) from its list of subscribers.

Extra features of the HillmanCars group :

In order to access any extra features, you will need to join the Yahoo Groups scheme.  This is in addition to subscribing to the e-mail distribution scheme as described above. (You can subscribe as a part of this joining process, but it's more complicated to the first-timer).

1. "Edit My Membership" –  has special e-mail options, e.g. to receive a daily Digest instead.
2. "View all Messages" –  gives an index to individual messages in the archive. From there, "Expand Messages" gives the full text of every message within that page. If you find the adverts to be overly aggressive, I recommend the following technique:
   
   1. Use Netscape instead of Microsoft Internet Explorer.
   2. Disable images (Netscape v7:  Edit –> Preferences –> Privacy & Security –> Images)
   3. Disable Macromedia Flash Player by referring to this Macromedia web page and following the instructions to "manually uninstall"  (halfway down the page).  Instead of deleting the specified files, rename them by inserting "$" at the front of the name (so you can put  things back together if desired).
      
3. "Photos" (in the left column).--  This doesn't work unless your browser is set to accept images.  You are doomed to receiving all of the   pesky adverts except the Flash ones.
4. "Leave Group" –  to cleanup the special settings established when you Joined this group.

Background to the HillmanCars group :

The group was created by Evan Hillman in April 2000, primarily for the purpose of gaining attention to refer people to the already-successful  hillman@can-inc.com  discussion list hosted & sponsored by Gary Moore since 1997.

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